Category: Faith and Reason

Why Modern Critiques of The Seer Miss the Point: A Contextual LDS Perspective

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Context Matters: What The Seer Actually Says

What if the fiercest warnings in 19th-century Latter-day Saint prophecy weren’t threats—but invitations? Two critics of the LDS Faith attempted to quote Orson Pratt’s The Seer to paint a picture of doom and coercion. But the full text tells a different story—one of covenant, consequence, and mercy.

Recent blog posts from Life After Ministry and Glenn E. Chatfield cite Pratt’s statements as proof of a “false gospel.” Yet their critiques rely on selective excerpts and logical shortcuts. When we examine the full passage from The Seer, we uncover a nuanced prophetic framework rooted in biblical tradition. I want to explore the rhetorical style, theological assumptions, and historical context behind Pratt’s words—and offers a steelman response that honors both faith and reason.

These two critics attempt to cite Orson Pratt’s statements from The Seer, Volume II, No. 2 (Feb 1854), pp. 215–216, as evidence of extreme or coercive theology. However, the full passage reveals a layered prophetic warning, not a simplistic condemnation. Pratt’s rhetorical style is apocalyptic, drawing from biblical precedent (e.g., Jeremiah, Isaiah, Revelation) to frame national repentance as a spiritual imperative. His language mirrors Old Testament prophets who warned Israel of destruction unless they turned to God.

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EPISODE 4 — Finding Dry Ground: God’s Order in Your Chaos | GENESIS 1:9–13

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Finding Dry Ground: God’s Order in Your Chaos
Genesis 1:9-13 Study Guide

Welcome fellow travelers to our devotional series Daily Exodus – Disciplines of Deliverance for the Sacred Sobriety channel.

Some of us are drowning in the same waters God already commanded to move. We’re praying for deliverance while standing in the very place where God intends to plant us.

Today, we’re stepping into Day 3 of Creation — the moment God gathers the waters and reveals dry ground. This is the pattern of deliverance. Not escape. Not avoidance. But God creating a place for your feet to stand.

If you’re navigating recovery, fear, doubt, or a faith crisis, this episode is for you. God is not just separating your chaos — He is forming stability beneath you. Let’s walk this out together.

Day 3 is the first moment in Scripture where something solid appears.

  • Not light.
  • Not boundaries.

But ground — a place to stand, a place to grow, a place to begin again.

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Engaging with Criticism: A Thoughtful Theological Response

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When someone has to declare you “unsaved,” “deceptive,” and “Dunning–Krueger deluded” before addressing your actual arguments, it tells you something important: They’re not confident the arguments alone will persuade their audience. This observation underlines a critical aspect of argumentative discourse—when individuals resort to personal attacks or appeal to negative labels, it often indicates a lack of substantive counterarguments or confidence in the strength of their position.

In the closing section of his video, Bill Young shifts from critiquing ideas to making sweeping claims about my motives, my salvation, my honesty, and even my psychological competence. These are not small accusations. They deserve a careful, transparent, and scripture‑centered response—not for my sake, but for the sake of anyone who wants to see what honest interfaith engagement actually looks like. Such responses should be rooted not only in a desire for clarity but also in a commitment to a dialogue that values truth and mutual understanding.

I’m not here to trade insults. I’m here to model what it looks like to respond to criticism with clarity, scripture, and integrity. This is essential, particularly in an era where online discourse can easily descend into personal attacks and mischaracterizations. I’ll steelman Bill’s concerns, identifying and reconstructing his arguments in their strongest form, and then I will proceed to uncover any logical fallacies that may underlie his assertions. The aim here is not merely to refute but to engage thoughtfully with each point directly—without caricature, without heat, and without retreating from what I actually believe. I aim to provide a balanced perspective that enriches the dialogue rather than escalating conflict, demonstrating that it is possible to disagree passionately yet respectfully. This approach not only enhances the quality of discussion but also sets a precedent for constructive engagement in interfaith dialogue.

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Day 2: The Divine Separation

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“Then God said, ‘Let there be light’; and there was light. God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light ‘day,’ and the darkness He called ‘night.’ And there was evening and there was morning, one day.”

~ Genesis 1:3-5, NASB ~

Supporting Scripture: 1 John 1:5-7, 2 Corinthians 6:14

The first act of God upon the chaos of the soul is not to bring peace, but to bring Light. And the immediate result of Light is conflict. We often pray for peace, but God answers with Light, because there can be no true peace where darkness is allowed to mingle with the day.

Notice the sequence: God commands the Light, and immediately He performs a separation. “God separated the light from the darkness.” He did not blend them. He did not create a twilight zone where we can comfortably hold onto a little bit of our old habits while professing a new life. He divided them.

This is the crisis of genuine recovery and the covenantal life. We want the comfort of the Light—the relief of forgiveness, the clarity of a sober mind—but we resent the severity of the Separation. We want to be children of the day without entirely leaving the night. We try to negotiate a “gray area” where we can keep our pet sins, our resentments, and our small compromises, thinking they are harmless.

But God is the Great Divider. His Light is intrusive. It is penetrating. It reveals things we would rather keep hidden in the “formless and void” places of our hearts. When God speaks “Let there be light” into an addicted soul, He is declaring war on the shadows that have enslaved it.

It is often spoken of as the “crisis of the will.” This is that crisis. You cannot walk in the Light and have fellowship with the darkness (1 John 1:6). It is an impossibility. The moment you claim the Light, you must accept the Separation.

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Day 2 – The Weapon of Identity

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Moses 1:12–16; Romans 8:16-17; 2 Timothy 1:7

Theme: Confrontation, Sonship, & The Hierarchy of Value

And it came to pass that when Moses had said these words, behold, Satan came tempting him, saying: Moses, son of man, worship me. And it came to pass that Moses looked upon Satan and said: Who art thou? For behold, I am a son of God, in the similitude of his Only Begotten; and where is thy glory, that I should worship thee? For behold, I could not look upon God, except his glory should come upon me, and I were transfigured before him. But I can look upon thee in the natural man. Is it not so, surely? Blessed be the name of my God, for his Spirit hath not altogether withdrawn from me, or else where is thy glory, for it is darkness unto me? And I can judge between thee and God; for God said unto me: Worship God, for him only shalt thou serve. Get thee hence, Satan; deceive me not; for God said unto me: Thou art after the similitude of mine Only Begotten.
~ Moses 1:12-16 ~

There are moments in the life of every believer when heaven has spoken, the soul has bowed, and the world has fallen silent. Moses had just come from such a moment. He had tasted the “mercy of nothingness”—the holy undoing that comes when a man stands before God and discovers that all self‑importance is dust. But Scripture shows us a pattern: whenever God empties a man, the enemy rushes to fill the vacuum.

The adversary does not wait for weakness; he waits for surrender. He appears not when Moses is proud, but when Moses is humbled. Not when Moses is full of himself, but when he is emptied of Egypt. This is the rhythm of spiritual warfare: revelation is followed by confrontation.

Satan’s first words are calculated: “Moses, son of man, worship me.” He does not tempt Moses with pleasure, but with identity. He attempts to rename him. The enemy always begins by lowering the value of the soul. If he can convince you that you are merely a creature of dust, he can command your worship. If he can strip you of sonship, he can strip you of authority.

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Day 1: The Mercy of Nothingness

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And it came to pass…that Moses fell unto the earth. And as he was left unto himself, he fell unto the earth. And he said unto himself: Now, for this cause I know that man is nothing which thing I never had supposed.
~ Moses 1:9-10 ~

What if your rock bottom was Holy and Sacred Grounds? We are taught to fear the moment we lose control – when our strength fails and we are left with nothing. However, when we look to Moses, he is not defeated; he is positioned for power. In Moses 1, a prophet comes face-to-face with God and realizes a terrifying truth: Man is nothing. For those of us in recovery, this is not an insult. It is the first breath of freedom.

Today marks the beginning of our devotional series: Daily Exodus – Discipline of Deliverance as we study through the Old Testament for Come Follow Me. This new devotional series is for Latter-day Saint Christians, and Evangelical Christians seeking the discipline of deliverance from addiction, codependent relationships, and overcoming faith crisis, fear, doubt, and even anxiety or depression. Grounded in scriptural truth, grace of God, and revealing Jesus Christ along the sacred journey and path.

For much of our lives, we pour time and energy into proving we’re enough. We construct walls of reputation, career success, and even religious performance to keep out the unsettling fear that we might fall short. For those wrestling with addiction, codependency, perfectionism, or a crisis of faith, this often comes with waves of doubt, fear, anxiety, and even depression. Our very enslavement to these compulsive natures oftentimes collapses when these levies eventually break. We are left staring at the wreckage of our own will, forced to admit a devastating truth: without God, we are utterly and spiritually bankrupt.

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Day 1: The Place of Beginning

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And the earth was a formless and desolate emptiness, and darkness was over the surface of the deep … Then God said, ‘Let there be light’; and there was light.”
~ Genesis 1:2-3, NASB ~

The beginning of genuine Christian discipleship and recovery is not a desire to be better; it is the admission of total ruin. One that comes by way of godly sorrow and contrition of spirit. A deep brokenness of human will, mind, and spirit. We come to ask God – come asking, begging, Him to help us tidy up the ruin of our lives, to help us organize the chaos into something manageable. For His grace to help us manage and cope, or deal, with the ruins of our lives.

God is not interested in helping us to either cope, manage, or deal with how we’ve shipwrecked our lives. He desires, and intends, to create something entirely new out of the void we find ourselves in. Each of us needs to come to the place of spiritual depravity. A place of spiritual bondage and desolation. A place where we awaken to the awful state of our own conditions – our own powerless and inability to manage our lives. It is this “formless and desolate emptiness” of our own soul and admit that we are powerless to light a fire that purges and cleanses us.

As long as you believe you have a spark of your own life left to fan into flame, you are not ready for God’s creative power to work in your heart, mind, and spirit. The darkness over the surface of the deep is not a problem for us to solve through our own willpower; it is a condition that can only be broken by the invading voice of God – the very spirit of Truth.

The Spirit of God was “hovering,” waiting. He waits over the chaos of your addiction, your broken promises, and your moral bankruptcy. He does not panic at the sight of your desolation. He will not act until you stop attempting to be the creator of your own restoration.

Recovery is not renovation of our lives. Nor is it a reformation of our lives. It is not a renovation or reformation project we undertake. Recovery is a resurrection of the corruptible and desolate soul that needs to be put to death and buried in covenant with Christ. Only then are we risen up in a newness of life through Christ. We are to stop attempting to explain the darkness or negotiate with the chaos. Stand still in the midst of your absolute ability and allow the Father, through Christ, by the gift and power of the Holy Spirit, to speak the very word that separates who you were from who He is making you. Let Him command the light you need to separate from the darkness and step into His glory.

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Scriptural Silence: The Case for a Divine Mother

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Is the Queen of Heaven truly a pagan intrusion, or is she the Bible’s most significant missing person?

While the instinct to defend the One True God against idolatry is scripturally grounded, dismissing the concept of a Heavenly Mother as mere “recycled paganism” or “19th-century speculation” overlooks a mountain of archaeological evidence. The silence you may perceive in the canon may not actually be an absence of the Divine Mother or Divine Feminine. That is, unless you want to hold to heterodoxy tradition of God being a dyadic-non-binary being. And by this – holding to the tradition that God is genderless and encompasses both male and female attributes and characteristic traits. Such a notion stemming from Gnostic heresy and teachings.

However, evidence suggests a deliberate suppression of the divine feminine and divine mother during the Deuteronomistic reforms – a silence that modern revelation breaks. By examining the original Hebrew rendering of the text and historical role of Asherah within the Divine Council, we find that Latter-day Saint theology does not invent a new goddess; rather, it restores the suppressed First Temple theology of the Divine Feminine, aligning the creation narrative and the image of God with the best consensus of contemporary Biblical Scholarship.

To appreciate the Latter-day Saint viewpoint – and then respond to the X user PetGorilla’s posting, we want to first dismantle the logical framework used. The rejection of the divine feminine rests not on the absence of evidence, but on a series of interpretive fallacies that mistake historical suppression for theological non-existence.

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Lesson 5: The Church of the First Century & Restoration Parallels

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Was the “Great Apostasy” just a loss of truth, or was it a loss of power? In our latest installment of the Apostasy to Restoration: Reformation or Restoration – That is the Question series, I examine the structural and spiritual disintegration of the First Century Church and the divine pattern required to restore it.

Watch the Premiere Join me for the full lesson at 7:30 PM PST as I connect the dots between the ancient Church and the modern Restoration.

The Divine Pattern of Authority Before the Church could conquer the world, it had to be organized. In Acts 1, Peter uses three specific words to define the vacancy left by Judas:

  1. Diakonia: The duty to serve.
  2. Episkopē: The position of oversight (acting as a proxy for God’s visitation).
  3. Apostolē: The commission to go out as an ambassador.

However, structure alone wasn’t enough. The Apostles were commanded to wait for “power from on high.”

Pentecost and the Kirtland Temple One of the key insights from this lesson is the parallel between the Day of Pentecost (Acts 2) and the dedication of the Kirtland Temple (1836). By using the lens of the Restoration, we can see that Pentecost was not just a revival; it was a Temple Endowment.

  • The Upper Room: Functioned as a “Holy of Holies.”
  • Cloven Tongues of Fire: Signified the investiture of the High Priesthood upon every believer.
  • The Kirtland Parallel: Early Saints recorded identical manifestations—rushing winds and tongues of fire—confirming that Joseph Smith didn’t just invent a new church; he restored the ancient experience.

Peter’s Sermon as a Temple Text We also discuss the work of scholars who argue that Peter’s sermon follows a liturgical “Temple Text” pattern: Gathering, Instruction on the Atonement, and Covenant Making (Baptism). Peter wasn’t just preaching on a street corner; he was officiating as a High Priest.

New Guidance on Bible Translations for Latter-day Saints

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The latest wave of updates to the “General Handbook: Serving in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” includes an adjustment to a portion about editions and translations of the Holy Bible.

The handbook notes that “generally, members should use a preferred or Church-published edition of the Bible in Church classes and meetings.” In English, that is the King James Version.

The adjusted handbook section also points to examples of English Bible translations that members can consider as they seek to better understand the teachings of the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament.

Source: New Guidance on Bible Translations for Latter-day Saints